![]() Actually, now I still believe the auction listing pictures are of real coins compared to the image samples at To my untrained eye at the time they seemed legit coins. Here are the pictures in case the links don't work: Since the listing was taken down, I searched online and came across these listings on another site with the same picture I saw in the Ebay listing: On the package I received, it was incased in an approximately 7"x7"x3" block of styrofoam and the postage cost the seller 26 yuans or roughly US$4. ![]() The last time I looked at the seller ongoing listing, they had sold over 100+ of these coins. The auction listing title was called: "AAA2000 Chinese China Silver Panda Coin 10 Yuan" and the Ebay seller id was k_touch. Ebay has since taken down the listing but here is the link for reference: I was naive and inexperienced and bid on an Ebay silver panda that seemed to be a good deal. ![]() I was searching online for information on a coin I recently received and came across this forum. I strongly advise eBayers to consider this information before buying from colorful8876 and updang1. The photos are linked to a Chinese social networking website, so these could be photos posted by innocent collectors in China. Unlike the silver Pandas, the coin photos of these new items appear to be of genuine coins. Their intrinsic value will be just pennies If the coins are fake they will be composed of copper or a base metal alloy that is plated with a thin layer of gold. Over $3,000 of "gold" coins have been sold by these sellers in less than 24 hours. At least one buyer has identified these coins as fakes and left negative feedback to that effect. (I say presumably because the photos were of fake coins, but I am still waiting for a shipment to arrive so that I can inspect the actual coins). These same sellers have sold hundreds of presumably counterfeit silver Pandas to unwary eBay customers over the last month. The eBay sellers colorful8876 and updang1 (possibly the same person or organization) are now selling 1/10 and 1/20 oz. Some are so bad it's just laughable - like putting the wrong year's design motif on a coin. One of the many reasons I'm comfortable collecting Pandas is because the fakes are pretty easy to spot. Either that or restrict themselves to buying from dealers who guarantee their inventory is authentic. I think we have entered an age where coin collectors, regardless of what country's coinage they collect, will have to be more alert to clues that items offered for sale may be fakes. Just this morning a member of the Chinese Coin Forum posted a fascinating photo of what happened when he applied acid to a so-called silver bar ( ) that weighed the right amount. It does seem, though, that some coins and bars are now being fabricated using alloys that are closer to the weight of sliver or gold than copper is. ![]() If the coin's weight is off than that fact alone is sufficient proof it is a counterfeit. It seems to me that we have entered an age where coin collectors, regardless of what country's coinage they collect, will have to be more alert to clues that items offered for sale may be fakes. ![]() Click to expand.I think you are generally correct. ![]()
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